My MacExpo ‘04 Highlights
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btw, i never argued with mac’s software prics.. they are about the same as a pc from third part vendors.... i just think it sucks for mac owners to have to pay over $100 a year for updates....
The same? $320 vs. $50? And the $320 version doesn’t even work as well, OR together?
And for the record, most Mac owners make enough money with their computers to justify $100 for “updates.” Maybe your stigma is with that word, and that in the PC world, “updates” means bug-fixes--things that they should get right in the first place. At least on the Mac “updates” are really that--updating and addition of new, productive, features.
you get new stuff with windows updates as well.. and who said this was windows vs mac? not to mention isnt mac AIMING much of thier stuff to home-users? who dont make money with thier PCs? (a mac is indeed a personal computer
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and your comparing apples to oranges....youve added all those programs to get a “like result” to compare with, they arent in compentition perse as itunes and WMP. which i AM using itunes for windows.. and i rather like it..., but i dont like quicktime for movies.... im just less impressed with its ..uh… options? perhaps imovie picks up where quicktime doesnt… but ive not used it yet. (if youll read my earlier posts, ive said MANY times… i WANT a mac.. AAAAND a pc… and ill have laptops of both.... (screw huge cases… i want something i can take to the girlfreinds house.. shes low on electronics..)I.e. dont preach mac goodiness to the uh… well not converted but uh… double enthuseist?) damn it derek we need to get together and have a beer :beer:
Word on that homey. A don’t confuse my statement as strictly a Mac vs. PC thread. You seemed to indicate that you thought that similar 3rd party apps were available at similar pricing for the PC as the Apple iLife apps.
But yeah, you got me. The iLife apps ARE aimed at the home user, and not the professional. Which is probably why the app suite is $50. As for the OS costing $100 per presently frequent upgrade and whether or not that’s a bad thing--I guess it just boils down to how quickly a person wants innovation. Windows will catch up. In 2005 with Longhorn, hopefully. Early adopters always pay more, but smile more often as well.
(Oh, and iMovie is for *making* movies, not watching them. Quicktime has much better streaming and audio (AAC) than WMP. Other than that, the differences are a bunch of techno jumbo that I don’t even get into.
Oh wait, but seriously though--what new “features” have Windows updates given you? Answer in email if you like, as this topic is supposed to be for the MacExpo, but that comment really threw me.
since sp1 theres been lots of small ad ons for windows, like windows movie maker.. all the additions of WMP, and though i dont know how to use it? some sort of .net server software for the pro version… theres updates for windows plus edition and tablet/media/server additions as well.. but i dont get wind of those with the pro version :/.
Now you might think… blah blah blah windows has 5 editions? mac only needs two! well.. truthfully each addidtion is specific for its purpose and the stuff included with each one is useless for a computer without those incluced compenents.... such as tablet pc.. theres tons of power saving options, and intergrated handwirting input for each program...so nothing a pc user needs. but then again.. why not put it in the updates just in case any pc needs it? windows hasnt figuerd out how to make programs that dont take up shitloads of space… this is something to be taken up by longhorn....(and its not 2005… its hopefull MID 2005… gheeeey)
NOW igarageband… im excited about...as well as the Neverwinter nights for mac. Mac users need to learn to play games :D. Blizzard was cool enough to put both versions on every game they made (PC and mac). Bioware however tends to put things out after they go platinum or something :/. BUUUT if neverwinter nights does well on pc (i hope) then we might see more games coming to MAc on PC release day.
This artical DOES excite me, as well as the first time i saw virginia techs super computer. Hella nice machine. BBBUTTT what i really want to see? is a new platform that windows and OSX both work on… x86 is to damned long in the tooth...and truthfully LAME i can visibly see the difference between data cluttering between the NTFS and unix file systems. unix is certainly better. Thus longhorns 64bit system is trying to emulate/integrate something unix like if not unix, if im not compleeetly mistaken.
The next thing i want to see… AMD making processors for mac. The amd 64fx-51 stood up neck and neck in a single proc configuration with the dual g5… now thats a damn good processor. (one i plan to get next in my PC based laptop, there are mobile versions now)
and uh.. i still hate intel…
But all in all… i think all the new things mentioned at the macexpo are GREAT, which makes me more excited to get muh own mac....
ANy word on a g5 powerbook? if im gonna pay mac prices for hardware i dont want second rate stuff....
you get new stuff with windows updates as well.. and who said this was windows vs mac? not to mention isnt mac AIMING much of thier stuff to home-users? who dont make money with thier PCs? (a mac is indeed a personal computer
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Actually, my parents bought an eMac—its totally a “personal computer”—and my mom makes quite a bit of money. She hardly ever used a computer before the eMac and now she’s burning DVD’s left and right. Have a bunch of pictures you want put to music? My mom throws them into iMovie, adds transitions and effects, pulls music from iTunes, dumps it all into iDVD and there’s $150 right there. Takes her about an hour. Last year, she made over a grand doing DVD’s. So yeah, its a personal computer, but even home users can EASILY make money.
hehe, great story, Mays! the iLife apps really do empower creative people.
When I get Garage Band, I’ll definitely post some songs and whatnot.
And I see that Apple has posted their iLife ‘04 video. It runs through each of the apps and the new features that have been added, talking with Elijah Wood, Sheryl Crow, Tony Hawk, and that dork from MTV.
Actually, I’m a little pissed at Apple at the moment, but they still make the best computers out there. If only they would own up to their faults and not screw over their customers. :(
Well, good luck with your iBook. Have you looked at Apple’s support forums? There are quite a few people who have fixed the problem themselves. but I think Black Cider’s pretty far offbase when they say that Apple didn’t innovate in 2003. I guess they forgot about the iTunes Music Store, development of iTunes for Windows, and a little thing called Panther, with over 150 signficant new features and changes.
Damn you. Damn you all! You evil, manipulative, self-serving, enticers! How dare you spew your lies and half-truths, filling my head with dreams-that-can-never-be. How dare you make me want to go out and buy a Mac right now. :furious:
Heh. Seriously, though, this does simply increase my suppressed urging to get a Mac. Powerbook, probably. Who knows, maybe I’ll actually do it. [shrug]
(BTW, what video formats does iMovie work with? Or—more specifically, I guess—what formats can it take as input for editing and such?)
While I don’t wholly agree with the fella at blackcider, he is trying to get something done about the problem. And the article you mentioned is a little bit different than the problem I have. The display wire problem is not as serious as the faulty logic boards that blackcider.com and I (along with a few thousand other iBook owners) are complaining about. And yes, he’s just obviously pissed at Apple. Apple has clearly innovated in 2003, more so than they ever have.
And Chris, just about anything. As long as you have divx installed, you can import those sometimes-pesky avi’s (although you may have to convert them first). But mpeg, and so on, and so forth. It’s very easy to work with.
Of course the simplest way to bring video into iMovie is to plug your camcorder into the firewire and let iMovie capture it and split it into clips for you. Then you’ve got clips in the native DV format.
And my fault, Mays, I wasn’t sure if you were certain that it was the logic board or if you were just presuming since you had heard of the problem.
In all honesty, I hope you get your problem fixed, but I don’t see than any other manufacturer would do any better. If I learned one thing from my few years in high school selling electronics, the warranty is there to protect the company, not the consumer. :( It’d be a nice world if Apple was different, but if they were, they wouldn’t sell Apple Care.
Chris… as i said in the ipod forum.. buuuuy iit… BUUUUUUUUUYYY ITTTT!!!
Just dont throw your PC away.... The thing about mac is its much harder to find mini apps. But then again the stuff you DO find for mac is more trouble free than the third party stuff for pc.
Dont forget games… Not every company crosses over yet… but they might soon… ive got tons of freinds in college with ibooks and power books (none with imacs… curiously...) and they would love to have more of thier pc apps on the go with thier laptops.
uh, just how much is apple care? I want a powerbook as soon as it hits G5… but i want it to last me at least 3 years…
one more thing.... how does your mother make the money with the DVDs? im getting a dvd burner here soon… it would be cool as hell to make some extra dough… though i think i might get a professional company to do my biography
Hey, no fair linking to a placeholder page! Dangit I guess I had better get my site finished.
Traditionally on Powerbooks, AppleCare is $350 for three years. I had AppleCare on this Mac, had to use it once, and it was nutzo smooth. Got a live human within five minutes, and they took care of the problem real snappy like.
Yeah, when’re the new G5-based laptops coming out? If I’m going to be spending $2500 on a Mac then I want the latest and greatest, dammit! A G4-based one would be nice and all, but a G5-based PowerBook would just rock! :thumbsup:
Honestly fella’s, I don’t see a G5 laptop any time soon, whatsoever. Unless Apple engineers some type of water cooling/vector heat wave cooling devise for the overly heat producing processor, it would just be too damn hot. WAY too hot. They are going to have to have a different type of processor, or figure out some better cooling. You obviously can’t throw 48 fans into a laptop. And it would be too hot to sit on your lap; thus, defeating the purpose of a laptop.
true, but then again, pc companies have over come this with speed-stepping and mobile versions of their processors… i dont think apples inovations are above it.
Mays, if that were the case, then there would be no XServe. It’ll need vent ports like the XServe does, but it will happen, and it will run cool enough, with an insulated bottom no doubt.
LOL. I could make a comment here about how all the Mac people were just too busy enjoying their games, while the PC people are feverishly posting trying to get the game to work, not crash, or run faster, but I won’t. Oh wait, crap.
what mac games?
Well this one, obviously.
OMG! :laugh:
i love this comment~
“Are you kidding me??”
This game is retarded…
"Worse than a picture of Michael Jackson”
says it all, hehe.
i still like both :square:
By Greg Ferrell on January 7, 2004 at 12:20am link